Never Say Never
Fun June 30th, 2008
It’s official. I’m going to hell.
You may notice a new graphic in my sidebar for the BlogHer network. On approach for The Junk Drawer’s first birthday, I’ve considered ways to earn some cash to offset the costs associated with blogging.
I was recently accepted by BlogHer, and with it comes an opportunity to make some money on the side.
Don’t think for a second that I didn’t stress over this decision, especially because I have said publicly I would never put ads on this blog. That’s right. Never put ads on this blog.
During the last few months, I’ve been having a conversation with two opposing people in my head: Conflicted Me, who hates to go back on her word, and Sensible Me, who would like to earn enough money from blogging to buy a pizza and a beer every now and then.
Here’s how things went in my head:
Conflicted Me: So you said you’d never put ads on the blog. You’re a big, stinking liar. What gives?
Sensible Me: Yeah, I said it. What I never wanted were ads that leapt off the page in the middle of posts and annoyed people.
Conflicted Me: But you did it anyway.
Sensible Me: Well, not exactly. The BlogHer folks give you ads to put up over on the side that don’t scream at you. The ads come from well-known companies that I can get behind. It was really Google AdSense ads I didn’t want on my blog. I worried I’d get ads for Preparation H for all the times I discuss my butt.
Conflicted Me: But you always thought your blog would be purer if you kept ads off it.
Sensible Me: I did, but then I considered how much time I put into writing stories that entertain others.
Conflicted Me: You think this is entertaining?
Sensible Me: Shut up.
Conflicted Me: You once said your day job pays the bills, but blogging makes you rich. Did you really mean rich, as in a millionaire?
Sensible Me: No, stupid. I meant that it gave me an outlet to write for the masses. To hopefully give others something to chuckle about for five minutes during the day. It’s my passion.
Conflicted Me: But that didn’t mean you had to get paid for it, did it?
Sensible Me: No, but it started sounding like a viable option when Dave put it to me this way: “If you got your book published, you’d expect to be paid, right? So why are you giving away book material, one page at a time, for free?”
Conflicted Me: You think this stuff is book quality?
Sensible Me: Listen, jerk. I never said this was book quality or that I could ever actually publish a book. But it seems to me if I’m putting as much effort into the blog as I’d put into a book, then maybe it’s not a half-bad idea to get a little spare change along the way.
Conflicted Me: I bother you, don’t I?
Sensible Me: Yes, you do. Now could you get out of my head and let me be?
Conflicted Me: Sure, but have you thought about how your readers will feel about ads on your blog? Aren’t you worried they’ll go find someone else to read?
Sensible Me: Yes, but I’m willing to take the risk that maybe, just maybe, they could see the ads as an indirect way to put some dough in my pocket, and they’ll still feel enriched by reading something I wrote.
Conflicted Me: You’re really full of yourself, aren’t you?
Sensible Me: I’ve had about enough of you.
Conflicted Me: OK, but don’t come crying to me when all your readers leave and all you’ll have to celebrate your blog’s birthday is a cake and party hats with no one to pass them out to.
Sensible Me: Bite me. And you’re not invited! So there!
Conflicted Me: Suit yourself. I’m leaving. But we still have to discuss that $1 jar of mayo you forgot to pay for at the store last week. That’ll keep us up at night and you know it.
Note: While I did say yes to ads on my blog, I do have a little template tweaking to do. I plan to have two sidebars on the right, instead of just one so that the ads and other things can run on the right, while my other graphics will appear as before on the left.
And don’t worry. My face will stay right where it is. I know that’s the real reason you all come here.
Stumble it!






June 30th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Hey who could argue against beer and pizza money…:))
robert bourne’s last blog post..Train Ride
June 30th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Oh, I dunno…I read through my feed reader. Never see the ads.
Guess I should physically stop by more often!
jen’s last blog post..The good, the bad, and the uuuugly
June 30th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
You know, they’re making wonderful meds for those kinds of internal conversation
I’ve been thinking of adding back my ads too … I was up to $2.75 when I took them off I think.
DrowseyMonkey’s last blog post..Branded
June 30th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
That Glam.com is seriously offensive. Really, I don’t think I can come back here ever, ever again.

Actually, out of all the blogs I read and all the ads I see, I always felt that you were the one that who should get paid. Your blog is… wait for it…FUNNY! Plus your ad/no ad dilemma just made for an entertaining post. Win-win.
Stephanie C.’s last blog post..if you heart joss whedon…
June 30th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
No need to justify it! Your blog is great. Ads are only offensive when they appear on shite blogs. Plus, that Blog Her thing is pretty innocuous. Some ad systems make a blog all flashy and garish like a Geocities site circa 1998.
grumpus’s last blog post..3-Day Novel, or: I can write superfriggin long posts if I want! Zut alors for you.
June 30th, 2008 at 8:07 pm
robert bourne — And donut money, and ice cream money, and cookie money, the list is long.
jen — I’m happy to have readers no matter how the get their Junk Drawer fix! Feed, direct, whatever. I’m trying not to feel a little dirty running ads. Please stick with me!
DrowseyMonkey — You have no idea how much goes on in this head of mine. Er, maybe you do. I have high hopes for BlogHer because I’ve heard such good things about it.
StephanieC — Gosh, don’t give me a big head. (We know I already have one). Thanks chick-a-dee!
grumpus — Oh, that’s funny! Geocities. Yeah, whatever happened to them? Oh, that’s right. MySpace.
June 30th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Well I think it’s trashy! You’d never see me running this sort of ad on my blog ;O)
Babs – beetle’s last blog post..Stones in my life.
June 30th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
I love it when I have arguments with myself!
June 30th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
i dont care if you make money while doin the thing you love and i dont look at the adds i just look at the post and i love when you have arguments with yourself
June 30th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
You have ads? I am working on my abs. At least your ads are flabby like my abs.
Rattln Along’s last blog post..Death and Dying
June 30th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Should have used the contraction aren’t there. Hope I did not upset you, Kathy. I don’t think your ads are flabby unlike my abs.
Rattln Along’s last blog post..Death and Dying
June 30th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Hmmm, ok – here’s the deal… Pay me every dime you earn on your ads and I’ll continue to stop by. Try not to think of it as blackmail, but more as buying my love.
Jeff’s last blog post..76 trombones did not lead this parade!
June 30th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Good luck! I tried the ads thing once and made about $0.06. I would love to know how people make considerable amounts of money with their blogs. I am lucky if I get five people to come see what pathetic things I write.
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June 30th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Look at it this way – this at least gave her something to write about! But Kathy, I don’t like that huge “YES” graphic on the side, makes it look like you were planning this all along.
@Vegas Princess – Lies! In the last line.
Ulquiorra’s last blog post..Young Hobbit vs. Google, Lord of The Pings
July 1st, 2008 at 1:12 am
Why do we sweat the small stuff? Blogging is hard work. Who cares if you make a nickel or not? Go for it.
Kelli
July 1st, 2008 at 3:45 am
Babs beetle — Wiseguy. Think of it this way, if we go down in flames for running BlogHer ads, we’ll do it together!
Regan — But do you have them out loud and in public?
brooke — Thanks. I’m glad you get what you need from The Junk Drawer. And thanks for always commenting. I think you’re in the running with Regan for the title “#1 Junk Drawer Fan!”
Rattln Along — Abs? What abs? I haven’t seen my abs in four years.
Jeff — I’ll consider it. After all, it’s your love that sustains me.
Vegas Princess — I’m not sure how people do it myself. They do have huge page view numbers, and that I don’t have. So we’ll see how well this thing pans out. And after today, I might only have five readers left!
Ulquiorra — “Yes” was my answer after many months of saying “No.” That fight in my head went on a long time before Yes won out. Hoping it was the right answer. Time will tell.
Specialty writing — Thanks for the feedback. I’ve blogged for nothing for almost a year, but yeah, it’ll be nice to see a few extra bucks. If it amounts to a pittance, I’ll take it down and go right back to blogging for nothing. A writer can’t not write!
July 1st, 2008 at 4:17 am
I do not think it is Wrong to have ads on your blog. I have some on my blog so I can make my own allowance and buy myself some fun stuff with it.
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July 1st, 2008 at 4:33 am
I didn’t even notice the loooong ad in the sidebar. I definitely agree that it’s unobtrusive and does not make you look desperate.
Just promise not to tell how much you make else – it’ll make me hate you very very much !
July 1st, 2008 at 4:40 am
Kathy,
Don’t sweat it – ads are status quo. Very few people will run away because you are running ads. Your material is too compelling!
Neena (NeenMachine)’s last blog post..Suddenly Salad Giveaway!
July 1st, 2008 at 5:49 am
Hey, I wasn’t saying ads are bad (even though that one is kinda ugly – forgiven if that was the only size available), just that it’s bad to break promises
Apt title to the post then.
Just out of curiosity, how much are you expecting to earn in a year?
Ulquiorra’s last blog post..Numbering The Beast
July 1st, 2008 at 5:52 am
Awesome. I’ve been playing around with ads from the beginning and have noooo problem with them, as long as they don’t physically pop out of my screen and attack my head.
(And I would actually like it if I got a Preparation H ad on a butt post! That’s just my style!)
Well done, Kathy. People come here for the great content, your wonderful personality, and the lively comments section. A few ads aren’t going to scare anyone away.
Oh, and can I borrow “Conflicted Me”? I have a few people I’d like to sic her on.
JD at I Do Things’s last blog post..I Have a Shiny New Header so you don’t have to
July 1st, 2008 at 6:05 am
Daisy the Curly Cat — You must get a big allowance because you always seem to have plenty of toys to play with. Good for you!
Jaffer — Yes, it’s definitely long, which is why I’d prefer it be placed it its own sidebar, which I’m working on. Don’t worry. It won’t be enough to make a mortgage payment, I can guarantee that.
Neena (Need Machine) — Thanks for that. I know I may lose some readers, and I’m prepared for that. I respect that some people do not want to view ads and will run away at the first sight of them.
Ulquiorra — Yes, it’s larger than I’d like it to be. See comment to Jaffer. And it’s absolutely bad to break a promise, and as you read, I struggled terribly over that. If I lose readers and my blog growth slows, it’s my own fault but I accept it. I’ll know more about what to expect after I get through my first month.
JD at I Do Things — I share your view of ads, which is why I worried so. Honestly, if everyone flees over this, the ads will come down. I do thrive off my readership and the awesome community that’s developed here. Money isn’t everything, but I do want to give it my best shot. You can borrow “Conflicted Me” but you’ll have to make an appointment. She’s very busy with other dilemmas at the moment.
July 1st, 2008 at 6:29 am
If you’re going to run an ad, go with the more tasteful looking ads I say ;O)
When you get your layout tweaked, your blog will be much like it was before anyway.
More importantly, if you ran lots of ads down the side, I would still come back and read your blog. It’s your content I enjoy reading not looking at your sidebar content ;O)
Babs – beetle’s last blog post..Stones in my life.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:09 am
You post about your butt? Do tell, do tell!
Bucky’s last blog post..Time To Put A Cork In It
July 1st, 2008 at 7:09 am
Capitalism is king! What’s wrong with making some money??
Just please, for the love of all that is right and good, stay away from Viagra or Cialis ads. I want to retch every time I see an “older gent” and his woman disrobing to take a bath in the middle of a field.
Really?
What is that? So, they lugged these bathtubs to the middle of a field, filled it with nice, warm water (and what warmed it? the campfire??), climb in and watch the gnats swarm around them as they “get in the mood.”
SHEESH!
None of that, please!
July 1st, 2008 at 7:17 am
BabaBooey:
How did the old guy get the tub there? If he got it there, why does he need the little pill? Inconsistency must end now!!!
Rattln Along’s last blog post..Death and Dying
July 1st, 2008 at 7:49 am
Ratt A…
That’s what I’m saying!! Some 60+ year old guy, probably with a heart condition of some sort, is going to shlep a tub for him AND his lady. Then, fill it up with warm water. Then, climb into the thing, get all hot and lathered. Then, climb out, convince his lady that “the time is right” and rock and roll on itchy field grass.
Oh, yeah, love is in the air!!
July 1st, 2008 at 8:02 am
LOL, that was a great conversation. I just loved it. I will say your words kept me interested, I really don’t even know what ad you had on your sidebar. I think I have trained myself to tune them out. Like you do a small child asking for candy. So Make money girl. Good luck. I will be back…
July 1st, 2008 at 8:45 am
Uhm…. sometimes. Usually if I’m deciding what kind of ice cream I want.
Except its not that loud, but it goes like this:
Hungry me: I want the waffle bowl. With cookie dough bits and hot fudge.
Smart me: No. That’s not one of the choices.
Hungry me: So? You can still ask for it.
Smart me: Oh well. Order something else.
Hungry me: You’re always so annoying. You ruin everything I want to do. ALL THE TIME.
Smart me: Well, it’s to make you not look stupid. Okay?
Hungry me: Whatever. Back to the ice cream. I want a waffle bowl. With cookie dough and hot fudge.
Smart me: NO! We already had this conversation, and I’m sure the intelligent people reading this blog will not enjoy your ranting.
Hungry me: Yeah, so? I’m hungry. And you won’t let me get what I want.
Smart me: *sigh* Stop acting like you’re 3!
Hungry me: I don’t care. Maybe you don’t get the fact that I’M HUNGRY!!!! And if you don’t let me get a waffle bowl, what should I get.
Smart me: Well hurry up decide. People are glaring at you because you can’t make a decision!
Hungry me: I made a decision. You don’t like my decision. YOU keep me from getting my ice cream.
Smart me: FINE. Get the stupid waffle bowl.
Hungry me: Yay!
And that’s usually how it goes…
July 1st, 2008 at 9:59 am
Man, you and your readers sure get up early in the morning! Anyway, to tell the truth the ads don’t bother me at all. Now if you started to get mega rich off of those ads, and didn’t tell me about it, then I would be bothered. Unless, of course, your shared that new-found wealth.
Great post, Kathy. You actually managed to have an intelligent conversation with yourself. My doctor says when I can do that I can cut back on the meds.
July 1st, 2008 at 10:09 am
This was pretty damn funny. I do this out loud, and make my wife nuts. i think the reason I never won an election is because I kept debating myself. It’s good to know there’s kindred spirits like you out here Kathy. I visit you at lunch everyday. It keeps me from eating too much!
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July 1st, 2008 at 10:20 am
Regan: I love it when “Hungry Me” wins!
JD at I Do Things’s last blog post..I Ate an Expensive Candy Bar so you don’t have to
July 1st, 2008 at 10:45 am
Dude! I think those ads make bloggers look like they’re special – like Big Corporations have taken notice.
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July 1st, 2008 at 11:01 am
Babbooey is right about the Cialis, Viagra, Prostate ads, whichever, I am sick to death of them. But for blogs, nothing wrong with them if they are tastefully placed. Bloggers pay for hosting etc and your content is a service to those of us that need comic relief!
As far as Google ads go, they only work for targeted searches and single subject topics. And in that capacity they are excellent. They wouldn’t work for you since your blog is general and covers a whole host of topics something like plastic bags in trees would just not have a relevant Google add!. What IS nice about Google Ads is that no one has to buy anything, you only need to click. I have found conversion of other kinds of ads to be underwhelming for me so I rarely use them. I am on the Blogher waiting list tho’. Congrats for getting in!
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July 1st, 2008 at 11:50 am
I don’t mind your ads. What I’m really happy to know, is that I’m not the only one who calls myself a jerk.
Momo Fali’s last blog post..Say Hello To My Little Friend
July 1st, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Lucky for me, I never had such an internal debate since my sensible Bee was suppressed by mutants early on in my life.
I agree on the pop-outs being annoying. BlogHer ads are very tasteful.
Also, it’s an honor for them to accept you since their waiting list is so long.
Bee’s last blog post..Things that make me go Hmmmmmm…
July 1st, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Babs beetle — You’re right. The look will change a bit and then I won’t have one very long sidebar. It’s something I’ve wanted to do anyway. This gave me the shove to do it. And thanks again for being the BQ when I had a million questions.
Bucky — One butt. Two butt. These are butt-specific, but there are many others where I complain about the size of me. Too many to mention!
BabaBooey — I promise, if I see one of those ads, I’ll change my settings to decline it in the future. I’m lucky enough to not have seen the ad you describe. On the hunt to find it, so I could link it here, I found wonderful little interviews with Charlie and Norm on the Viagra website. Dare you to sit through them. They’re listed under the topic “Hardness Matters.”
Rattln Along — You know now that I must see this commercial! If someone can find it, post a link here. I’m afraid what I’ll get if I start Googling it.
BabaBooey (again) — OK, after more searching I found out it’s a Cialis commercial. I can’t find a version of it online, but now I know what to look for. Rub a dub dub!
Callie — Thanks. I’m glad it doesn’t bother you. I have to learn that “tune out” thing. My excuse is I don’t have kids, so I haven’t quite learned that skill!
Regan — And now, of course, I want a waffle bowl with cookie dough and hot fudge. There’s an ice cream place close to me. I just might have to run over there this afternoon. We shall blame “Hungry Me.” Make that “Hungry You.”
Lee — Don’t worry. I don’t plan on getting rich. Are you considering ads on yours? I’m not sure it was an intelligent conversation. Conflicted Me is so ornery.
Chris Casey — And I’m guessing your wife ignores the conversations you have with yourself? It’s probably best. Thanks for your visits and comments. And anything I can do to help!
JD at I Do Things — Hungry Me doesn’t argue with anyone in my head. All the other Me’s know that they can’t win against Hungry Me. And therein lies the problem.
sue — They have taken more notice, and I’m seeing more mainstream media coverage given to blogging in general, which is good for all of us.
windyridge — I know AdSense ads would have been all over the map with my material. I didn’t want to have to micromanage them. If something embarrassing ever showed up, I’d always feel like I had to check what was being fed. I feel a world better about BlogHer ads. BTW, they do not require a click, but I’m sure it helps if people do. Crossing my fingers for ya!
Momo Fali — You should hear the other things I call myself. But this a mostly G-rated blog. Glad the ads won’t bug ya.
Bee — Poor long lost Sensible Bee! Yea, life’s a lot easier without all the internal debate. I really struggled with this decision. You’re right. BlogHer is very tasteful and well-regarded. I was pleased to be approved. Anyone interested should at least get on the waiting list.
July 1st, 2008 at 12:39 pm
OH My God I just reread my comment and it didn’t come out the way I intended! When I said “But for blogs nothing wrong with them” I meant ads OTHER than Cialis and Prostate blah blah etc. I swear sometimes my fingers are being guided by someone else!
Actually in general, IMO ads for drugs are unethical.
windyridge’s last blog post..Alcoholic’s Breadanonymous
July 1st, 2008 at 1:10 pm
only rich people talk to themselves. i do it too, but i don’t answer back, too loud.
Conflicted Me: You think this is entertaining?
Sensible Me: Shut up.
heheh. i said i would never do the ad thing either. i’m free, cheap and easy, so i created another blog that will be full of them.
i don’t mind begging.
Natural’s last blog post..No Internet Connection
July 1st, 2008 at 2:24 pm
Feh, you do what you want. But go pay for that mayo.
I had a big purse once and things used to drift under it at the grocery store. Twice I went back a week later to pay for ‘free cheese’ and ‘free’ something else I can’t remember. But it made me sleep better.
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July 1st, 2008 at 2:37 pm
I blogged for about 4 years before I ever took an ad. Finally, I started and am now rolling in cash. As we speak, I’m on the phone with Domino’s to see if I can get a loan for a veggie deluxe using my future blog ad earnings as collateral. Oh yeah, I’m living la vida loca.
Seriously, the only downside has been that I have dedicated more than one post to my contempt for Richard Simmons. Naturally, my adsense space is just chock full of Richard Simmons ads.
Just keep on doing what you’re doing. If we ever meet, first beer is on me. I’ll keep socking my cool 35 cent per day earnings away, and should have enough to buy one for me, too.
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July 1st, 2008 at 3:10 pm
To Everyone on this Post:
You are all hysterical and such a wonderful group of writers – I love coming here every day, sometimes several times a day, to see what’s happening. I love how Kathy’s stories generate such funny responses from you. I didn’t notice the ad either because my eye goes right for the heading. I would definitely pay money to subscribe to this hilarious blog. Have a great day/evening.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Ads are fine, except the popups that obscure the text that you’re desperately trying to READ. Why does every weather web site park the ads right where the current weather appears on the page? The ads you have so far are unobtrusive, and for better or worse, it gives a blog some credibility. If I could specify horse-related products on my blog, I’d be there.
Stacey Kimmel-Smith’s last blog post..Online horse sales sites: Get creative!
July 1st, 2008 at 5:05 pm
windyridge — No worries. I understood you. I hate all ads for drugs. It seems like that’s all they run during the evening news. It’s a racket.
Natural — I say anyone who can make money from blogging should if they’re able. No harm in that. Hope you find yourself rolling in the dough!
Shieldmaiden96 — I went to the store after work and paid for the mayo. Took it to the cashier, explained what happened and he couldn’t believe my honesty. Thanked me twice! And now I can sleep easy tonight. Conflicted Me is no more!
Joe — I love your Richard Simmons references. Don’t worry, we’ll ignore the scary ads related to him. I’ll cover you on the beer. I’m good for it.
Marlene — Don’t you just love these people?!? I’ve always said half the fun of The Junk Drawer is the stuff readers throw in it after a post. It’s gold! Glad the ads won’t bug you.
Stacey — I find the worst ads come on newspaper sites. Our local paper is the worst. About 80% of the front page is a giant ad. I hate them. You should try AdSense. Your blog is so expertly written about horses, and only horses, I don’t think you’d find anything weird coming up.
July 1st, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Ow my goodness, you have become a true capitalist blog-whore….the Olympics when down hill when they started accepting professional atheletes and now this…..what is the world coming to?
By the way, based on the sensible / conflicted me scenerio….you need therapy.
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July 1st, 2008 at 7:05 pm
Bruce — Yep. That’s me! Oh, and you’ve been here long enough to know I needed therapy long ago. That was small peanuts.
July 1st, 2008 at 7:22 pm
I’ll stay with ya, Kathy.
But I won’t look at the ads, ROFL!
I talk to myself too. I’m the only one who will listen …
Jenny’s last blog post..At The Drive-In
July 1st, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Preparation H ads only pay about 50 cents a click, probably lower since that isn’t what people come here for, right?
It is interesting that you mentioned pizza money in the article and your ad is for Domino’s Pizza. Was that by design?
Frank C’s last blog post..iriver E100 Review
July 1st, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Jenny — Thanks for sticking with me! I sincerely hope the ads don’t annoy everyone. The layout will improve later this month, I hope. The ad will show further to the right, which is my preference, and should improve the overall feel.
Frank C — I don’t know how many people with sore butts are reading my blog. My guess is not many, as it probably hurts to sit in front of a computer for very long. I didn’t see a Pizza ad. They rotate, so I think readers could see any number of different ads. I guess it was just a coinkydink.
July 1st, 2008 at 8:22 pm
Mmmmmm…waffle bowls..but you need peanut butter ice cream with chocolate sprinkles in it.
I have conversations with myself all the time, usually at work, and out loud. (it helps when you are writing code, trust me!) People just quietly edge by my office…
Shadowsrider’s last blog post..Comfort Food
July 1st, 2008 at 8:26 pm
Here’s to a pizza and a beer for you! You gotta do what you gotta do…
mizmell’s last blog post..It Is What It Is
July 1st, 2008 at 9:05 pm
I wonder if we could set the ads for the site. Everybody post Ice Cream in their comments.
I will do that after I go and exercise my abs with a heavy-laden spoon using vanilla ice cream with chocolate sauce. Gotta work those abs, you know.
Rattln Along’s last blog post..Death and Dying
July 1st, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Kathy I loved the post and wish you well but should warn you that you may not make much with your ads.
You have a great readership but they come to read and not buy or click ads. (notice everyone said they would ignore the ads – you won’t make much that way) The type of ads you are running are more suited to search engine traffic although even then you would probably convert them into readers as well.
I hate to say it but low quality, highly SEO’d blogs with targeted traffic make money with ads. High quality social blogs like yours (don’t blush!) can be monetized but not with banners or Adsense. (not effectively at least) If you want to experiment with some other options please let me know and I will be happy to help you out.
As always you make me and a lot of others laugh – I can’t see any of your fans being upset if you should make a few dollars for your efforts.
Great post.
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July 1st, 2008 at 10:25 pm
For the first time in my life I’m speechless, but maybe that is a good thing.
You will have to experiment a little Kathy to see what works for you. Perhaps smaller, and more than one advert might produce better results. Lately the 125×125 size seems to be the most popular.
I won’t damn you to hell sweety but I will be interested in how it goes so do keep me in the loop.
(P.s.: send some commenters my way and there may be a kickback in it for you
Cheers!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 4:20 am
Shadowsrider — Peanut butter ice cream? I don’t know that I’ve heard of that. Where have I been? I try not to have conversations with myself aloud. Honestly, I think I do it, but don’t realize how much!
mizmell — We’ll see how it goes (see below).
Rattln Along — I’m don’t thing BlogHer targets ads based on content like AdSense, but I would never object to comments about ice cream. Is there anything better?
Grizzly — Thanks for your insight. I’m a little concerned about this thing BlogHer calls “default impressions.” I’ll write you to elaborate. One other avenue I considered was taking ads from local businesses, but that only helps if my readers are local. I wanted to get creative with ads, but couldn’t get that idea off the ground.
Blog Bloke — I know you must have fallen off your chair when you read this post. I would rather have smaller ads, but this was the size that worked best with my theme. Since this is my first attempt at advertising, I may have to reassess after a little while. I’m happy to send over some readers if I can. You’ve gave me so much help in the beginning, it’s the least I can do!
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:57 am
I would just like to ‘Ad’ a comment but that would be cheating. An Ad in a comment!!
Seriously, loved your unique style!
Bravo!
July 2nd, 2008 at 6:57 am
Well, I don’t know why everyone else comes here but it’s definitely why I come here. ;P
You sold out chickie…totally and completely.
Now go pay for the mayo
Lori’s last blog post..Just another conversation
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:09 am
Kathy,
So far I have not gone the blogher and PPP route. But I am afraid to write that I won’t, for the very thing that happened to you! I do have ads, but so far it is okay. I refuse to judge you as I could be in the same situation. There is s such a struggle as you documented you need both. Let me know if it works out!
July 2nd, 2008 at 10:47 am
lol what an entertaining conversation with yourself. Thanks for sharing!! haha The ads look fine. Don’t worry about it too much.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Let’s see… BlogHer sidebar or Preparation H ads…
You chose well, grasshopper!
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July 2nd, 2008 at 12:34 pm
I think a post about the Bloke himself could be put in the works.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 1:43 pm
I’ve already been to hell — they sent me back for selling ice cubes.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Hi Kathy…
First time commenting, but NOT the first time reading your wonderful blog.
You deserve to make some money with Junk Drawer. You put a lot of energy into this…it shows!
So more power to ya!
July 2nd, 2008 at 5:20 pm
martin miller-yianni — Hey, thanks for visiting and the compliment. I appreciate that and hope you come back again, ads and all!
Lori — Yep, I went to the other side. BTW, I did pay for the mayo. I went to the store yesterday. When I announced to the cashier what I was doing, he couldn’t believe it and thanked me twice. And now I can sleep at night.
Kathy@brazoscowgirl — If you say you won’t and then you do, all you need to do is grovel for forgiveness. Seriously though, I never thought of doing PPP because I couldn’t live with myself. Ads, just barely!
fragileheart — That wouldn’t be the first conversation I’ve had with my many selves. It’s the only one I’ll publish, though. Thanks for your support!
Jenn Thorson — Funny about the grasshopper reference. I used the “Patience, grasshopper.” line on someone half my age and she had no idea what I was talking about. I felt really old.
Jaffer — Totally! He gave me the leg up I really needed in the beginning. Also, I may submit something for his blog about the comments phenomenon over here at The Drawer. I’ve wanted to talk about why I think I’m fortunate to get so many. I have my theories.
Libertine — Ha! I don’t know if hell will have me, actually. I do so much complaining, everyone will ask for my immediate removal.
Ron — Thanks for coming out of hiding to comment. I’m so glad you like it here. It makes my day when people stop by for a visit.
July 2nd, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Kathy:
After reading that, you’ve got me conflicted. All I can say is, if you wanna make the big, big bucks, give it your best try kid. You only go around once, so you might as well make some dough.
Happy trails.
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July 2nd, 2008 at 7:54 pm
Swubird — Sorry! My best won’t make the big, BIG bucks, but it just might buy me that pizza. You’re right. We do only go around once and I did want to see if this would be a valuable venture. Wish me luck!
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:14 pm
I had a similar argument with myself, but it did not take long for me to realise that both sides of me were actually in complete agreement, and we both wanted some cold, hard cash money.
Once we were in agreement, we indulged in some highly charged make-up sex.
Lord Likely’s last blog post..Up the Dirty Tunnel
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Kath, you know that I support you in everything that you do. I’m your biggest fan, of course, after Dave and Regan….
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:36 pm
well i have self arguments all the time
this is what happen on monday
hungry me: i want a quart of rice and a court of genera tso chicken
smart me; you will never finish it all
hungry me: so i want all that food
smart me: no you dont your just bored with eating
hungry me: but im HUNGRY
smart me: no your not because the last time you ate all that you got bloated… remember that
hungry me: yeah but i still want it
smart me: can you at least do a pint of white rice and a pint of general tso chicken
hungry me: fine be that way
smart me: okay i will
smart me usually wins
anbd i know all the readers are thinking im weird
July 2nd, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Hey, who could complain about “Olga the traveling bra”…I didn’t even know they existed, let alone traveled! It’s a lot of work to keep up a blog…why not make some money too!?
Peggy’s last blog post..“I’ll see your crap and raise you an Oh sh*t”
July 2nd, 2008 at 11:57 pm
WOW! 70 comments!!
What’s your record # of comments??
See? Ads apparently bring in MORE readers!
FerdC’s last blog post..Grand Ole Chuck Wicks
July 3rd, 2008 at 1:39 am
I am having the exact same argument as myself. At the moment I don’t think that the traffic my site gets warrants putting ads up, but if I ever manage to get up to a decent amount of traffic, I am really unsure which direction I will go in. Would be nice to be able to earn enough money to cover hosting costs.
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July 3rd, 2008 at 5:27 am
Lord Likely — Way to resolve that! I see you’re using Project Wonderful. I’m starting to hear more about it and it’s something I may use down the road.
ann of the shampooo bag — I appreciate the support all these months. You remember the days when no one was reading. How far we’ve come!
brooke — And don’t you love how rice bloats you, and then you’re hungry and hour later. What’s up with that?
Peggy — Actually, the bra got here through Entrecard. It looks quite nice over there, doesn’t it? A traveling bra. Best blog concept ever.
FerdC — I believe the most comments I had was 94, on this post: Outing a Fraud, about someone who ripped off my content. We were all in a tizzy.
Riayn — There is a school of thought that you should display ads earlier on in your blogging career. That way, people who come along already expect it. I ran the risk of offending my regular readers by waiting until I had established a following. FWIW. Good luck with your decision!
July 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 am
I have to say, Kathy, I wondered exactly the same thing. I knew you had said no ads, evah. But you’ll enjoy the BlogHerAds. They are classy, I think, and unobtrusive. Plus, you’ll get a plug across four other blogs every week or so. And more traffic is more moolah for the pizza.
Welcome to the dark side.
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July 3rd, 2008 at 6:37 am
OOOOH so I’m not the only person with voices in their head who talks to themselves – it’s good to have company hehehe
If I get to hell first, I’ll put a request in to reserve the room next to me for you LOL I’ve heard of a lot of reasons for going to Hell – but BlogHer ads that is new one hehehe But even had I known before I had the ads put up on my blog I still would have – I figure what the heck, it pays the hosting fees so my hobby of blogging is free. And no one is forced to click on anything or to even look at them.
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July 3rd, 2008 at 9:20 am
i think its a chinese torture thing you get bloated and then you feel hungry
July 3rd, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Cardiogirl — The thing that made the difference is the quality of the BlogHer ad network. I don’t know that I could get behind anything else. I hope you’re doing well with it!
Lady Rose — Yeah, save me a space! That’s the benefit of BlogHer. You needn’t click on any ads for revenue to be generated. If it were dependent on clicks, I likely would not have participated.
brooke — I knew it was a conspiracy.
July 3rd, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Wow. I enjoyed reading this post! Google Adsense ads are ugly but I’m earning from it so… phew. I really don’t know if I should take it down or what. Anyway, this is one great post!
Vikki’s last blog post..What was I thinking?
July 4th, 2008 at 7:25 am
Vikki — Good to know it’s possible to make a killing with AdSense. I tip my hat to anyone who can make a go of it and be successful. Congrats. Glad you dropped by!
July 6th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Great blog! Looks like the comments drawer is nearly full and I may have to give it a hip check to get it to slide all the way closed, holding the other comments down with my free hand until the very last moment.
Great blog! I appreciate your internal discussion about the advertising…I think “we’ve” had that conversation before.
July 6th, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Greg — Thanks, and loved that little imagery. Yes, the drawer gets pretty full from time to time! I’m feeling better now about advertising here. I think I needed to let the idea sink in and now I’m OK with it. But, again, I hope my readers are not annoyed. I just love them to death.
July 10th, 2008 at 5:41 am
today an ad popped up in front of me i was very angry
July 10th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
brooke — The pop-up kind are the very worst. I notice my ads have some kind of floating box from time to time. Hopefully that’s not what annoyed you. I need you to keep coming back!
July 13th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
it was but it didnt pop up again and remember i have like ocd to keep coming back
July 15th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Good.. I really appreciate.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:27 am
ITS SUPERB…
March 14th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
I despise pop ups, and use every tool available to block them
September 1st, 2009 at 1:33 pm
I’ll put a request in to reserve the room next to me for you LOL I’ve heard of a lot of reasons for going to Hell – but BlogHer ads that is new one hehehe But even had I known before I had the ads put up on my blog I still would have – I figure what the heck, it pays the hosting fees so my hobby of blogging is free.
November 29th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Im with shelly on this one, i HATE pop-ups. Whenever i see one, i just leave the site, can’t stand those things!